Curse

Lourens · Feb 20, 2009, 12:20 PM // 12:20

I wanna run [Word of healing] but i cant choose between [reversal of fortune][dismiss condition][reverse hex][protective spirit] and [reversal of damage][smite hex][smite condition][Castigation Signet]

Other 3 Spells : [Infuse Health][Seed of Life][Healing Seed]

any suggestions

?

14 Healing
10 smit or protection
10 divine

Lusciious · Feb 20, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

[reversal of fortune] - small prot + heal
[dismiss condition] - condition removal + small heal if enchanted
[reverse hex] - good hex removal if you have at least 1-2 DF skills .
[protective spirit] - very good damage reduction from strong hitting monsters e.g. bosses
[reversal of damage],[smite hex],[smite condition],[castigation signet] - i wouldn't recommend any of those for a healer. unless you're running ROJ, then use em.

Andurros · Feb 20, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

I personally do not like to split up my attributes. I am either a healer, prot or smiter. I would choose a build that suits what you are doing and what you like to play. However, if you split up your attributes between healing and something else and the party expects you to be a healer they will want healing. Just a little something to think about.

Lourens · Feb 20, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Lusciious

[reversal of fortune] - small prot + heal
[dismiss condition] - condition removal + small heal if enchanted
[reverse hex] - good hex removal if you have at least 1-2 DF skills .
[protective spirit] - very good damage reduction from strong hitting monsters e.g. bosses
[reversal of damage],[smite hex],[smite condition],[castigation signet] - i wouldn't recommend any of those for a healer. unless you're running ROJ, then use em.

[reverse hex] isn't the same as [deny hexes]

Lusciious · Feb 20, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Lourens

[reverse hex] isn't the same as [deny hexes]

my bad. anyways, i'd take [cure hex] over [reverse hex] anytime

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Feb 20, 2009, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lourens

I wanna run [Word of healing] but i cant choose between [reversal of fortune][dismiss condition][reverse hex][protective spirit] and [reversal of damage][smite hex][smite condition][Castigation Signet]

any suggestions

?

It really depends on the situation. The 1st set of skills are mainly used if you are one of the main healers on the team.

The 2nd set are used more for support and are never really carried on the main healers, except for castigation signet which is seeing more play as e-management recently.

laksa and curry · Feb 20, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lourens

I wanna run [Word of healing] but i cant choose between [reversal of fortune][dismiss condition][reverse hex][protective spirit] and [reversal of damage][smite hex][smite condition][Castigation Signet]

any suggestions

?

Hi in order for me to give an objective piece of advice, i would like to look at the rest of your skill bar. It would also be good if u told me your attribute points split. I cant give my 2 cents based on the info you provided.

Sierraa · Feb 20, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

[Word of Healing][Patient Spirit][Protective Spirit][Dismiss Condition][Cure hex][Seed of Life][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Aegis]

12 + 1 + 1 Healing
10 + 1 Prot
8 + 1 Divine

Infuse isn't that great in pve nothing really gets spiked. ;\ I bring it out of sheer laziness cause I auto load a GvG bar and go.
RoF is a nice small prot to throw around, but if I'm bring WoH I'd much rather bring patient. It's a heal.
Reverse Hex, oh how I wish this skill wasn't 10 energy. ;\ It's a wonderful skill but it's expensive. The recharge is nice, compared to 12 seconds, but the prevented damage is meh. Since you're spec'd into healing why not take cure or spotless?

The smiting skills are nice, and it'd make for an interesting WoH bar, with castigation sig being energy management. You could maybe so something like:

[Word of Healing][Judge's Intervention][Reversal of Damage][Smite Hex][Smite Condition][Castigation Signet]

With maybe [Spear of Light] or [Bane Signet] or even [Divine Healing] since party heals are nice.

I'd do 12 + 1 + 1 Smite
10 + 1 Healing
8 + 1 Divine

Wouldn't recommend if you wanna push bars up to run the smite one, it'd be fun but you should bring support healing, like N/Rts.

Age · Feb 20, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

It all depends on what you want to do protect or smite with heros and hench I would smite in real party I don't need to tell you about that.

glacialphoenix · Feb 20, 2009, 11:31 PM // 23:31

PvE wise: I'm not keen on Infuse (not worth it in PvE), and [Healing Seed] and [Seed of Life] take up one slot for, what, a skill that you can only use every 25s? IMO, that's not worth it, especially since they're only useful when someone is getting hammered frequently within the time they're active.

[Protective Spirit] is <3 in HM.

FoxBat · Feb 21, 2009, 05:56 AM // 05:56

[Selfless Spirit] >>>>>> [GoLE] or any other non-elite emanage on Woh + Patient/RoF bars. Why have the ER healer debate when this skill gets you halfway there?

And before the "it ends when you self cast"- I'm sure you can get at least 6+ free heals to justify the slot over glyph, and stay near enough that back that the front/mid takes the majority of mob attention. It's only a real dilemma when you try to fit party heals on the same bar, which isn't something WoH is setup to do well anyway.

laksa and curry · Feb 21, 2009, 09:39 AM // 09:39

[QUOTE=Alexander Burn Victim;4501864][Word of Healing][Patient Spirit][Protective Spirit][Dismiss Condition][Cure hex][Seed of Life][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Aegis]

12 + 1 + 1 Healing
10 + 1 Prot
8 + 1 Divine

Ty for your response. The build u posted is quite "perfect" in my eyes, you might want to consider adding a rez in place of the sunspear skill. I tend to agree that a skill with 25 second recharge has no place on a monk bar. In a nut shell this build should get the nod from most players. Just be comfortable with what u bring. I see no point in playing a build that a "self proclaimed pro" pings you and not knowing what to do with it.

As for the 2nd bar, I do not think it will be effective enough, you might want to drop all the healing and pump them into divine prayers. Go smite with passive healing from divine prayers. Please do not run this build when u pug though, teams these days only accept "HB" builds and might tolerate WOH hybrids. If you were to ping this build in a pug you might have to bear with a barrage of flak and still get kicked.

riktw · Feb 21, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50

i like to run something like this
[woh][patient spirit][dismiss condition][cure hex][prot spirit][aegis][res chant][selfless spirit]
you can replace [res chant] for another res you like, and [selfless spirit] for [divine spirit] or [gole]
but well i like the little picture from [selfless spirit] a lot so i take that one.
and well, 15 sec or more free spamming is fun, as long as you dont get hit

moko · Feb 21, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Andurros

I personally do not like to split up my attributes. I am either a healer, prot or smiter. I would choose a build that suits what you are doing and what you like to play. However, if you split up your attributes between healing and something else and the party expects you to be a healer they will want healing. Just a little something to think about.

such a shame you got no clue that hybrids are way better. oh well. maybe some day you'll realise that 8 healing skills aren't really good.

Saraneth · Feb 21, 2009, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by riktw

i like to run something like this
[Word of Healing][Patient Spirit][Dismiss Condition][Cure Hex][Protective Spirit][Aegis (PvP)][Resurrection Chant][Selfless Spirit (Kurzick)]
you can replace [Resurrection Chant] for another res you like, and [Selfless Spirit (Kurzick)] and [Divine Spirit] or [glyph of lesser energy]
but well i like the little picture from [Selfless Spirit (Kurzick)] a lot so i take that one.
and well, 15 sec or more free spamming is fun, as long as you dont get hit

[[Aegis (Pve)] actually cancels [[Selfless Spirit (Kurzick)] due to its condition, so you'll want to remain conscious of that with your bar. Also, [Blessed Aura] and a +20% enchant mod can be used to increase [[Selfless Spirit (Kurzick)] and [[Divine Spirit]'s durations as needed.

Div · Feb 22, 2009, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by riktw

i like to run something like this
[woh][patient spirit][dismiss condition][cure hex][prot spirit][aegis][res chant][selfless spirit]
you can replace [res chant] for another res you like, and [selfless spirit] for [divine spirit] or [gole]
but well i like the little picture from [selfless spirit] a lot so i take that one.
and well, 15 sec or more free spamming is fun, as long as you dont get hit

Not having seed of life in PvE is like not having rend in GvG.

Lourens · Feb 25, 2009, 10:12 AM // 10:12

ow comon [selfless spirit] and [divine spirit] are waste of skill slots even [channeling] and maybe [power drain] would be better in PvE

deluxe · Feb 25, 2009, 01:03 PM // 13:03

I used to bring [air of superiority] to recharge long cooldown skills like [seed of life] and [glyph of lesser energy], it's actually pretty good energy management making it you dont really need gole.

Lusciious · Feb 25, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by Lourens

ow comon [selfless spirit] and [divine spirit] are waste of skill slots even [channeling] and maybe [power drain] would be better in PvE

i like [glyph of renewal] + [divine spirit] for infinite spamming ?

Lourens · Feb 25, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

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Originally Posted by Lusciious

i like [glyph of renewal] + [divine spirit] for infinite spamming ?

Waste of an elite

and [distracting shot] --> [Glyph of renewal] ( < That is your key skill without it your doomed )